Mon 28 Jan 2008
Tuesday 1/29
Chapter 19 Minimum Wage Laws
I came to this chapter with my eyes open because I have always had a negative opinion of minimum wage but when my son asked me why I sounded a little weak.
You cannot make a man worth a given amount by making it illegal for anyone to offer him anything less. You merely deprive him of the right to earn the amount that his abilities and situation would permit him to earn, while you deprive the community even of the moderate services that he is capable of rendering. In brief, for a low wage you substitute unemployment. You do harm all around, with no comparable compensation.
I thought that first line hit the nail on the head. You cannot make a person worth what they are not worth.
This is perhaps as good a place as any to point out that what distinguishes many reformers from those who cannot accept their proposals is not their greater philanthropy, but their greater impatience.
The above quote also seemed to me to explain some of my confusion. We call our impatience philanthropy. I am guilty of this in my own small sphere as I tend to be impatient.
So government policy should be directed, not to imposing more burdensome requirements on employers, but to following policies that encourage profits, that encourage employers to expand, to invest in newer and better machines to increase the productivity of workers — in brief, to encourage capital accumulation, instead of discouraging it—and to increase both employment and wage rates.
The final paragraph of the chapter was an excellent summation. Our family has owned several small businesses over the years. By the time we obeyed all the laws, especially in NJ, and insured ourselves against litigation, we were absolutely unable to make a profit. Our employees made money but our business did not.
The next chapter is on labor unions another economic subject that has touched our family.
Chapter 20 Do Unions Really Raise Wages
The thing that frustrates me about our own economy and he hits on it in this chapter on unions is that productivity is really not on the table at all. It has always been my belief that good workers are desired in industry and those who work hard and learn quickly will rise to the top. Increasingly, it appears that this is not the case at all and perhaps American industry is really about just spreading jobs around without any real concern for productivity. Where can this be heading? I personally believe that the current college situation where 80% of the population attends college is just a way to keep workers out of the work force because the economy doesn’t need them. The economy does need to support a massive higher education structure. Therefore not only is productivity not necessary but true education is totally beside the current college point. I don’t suppose anyone who reads this blog will be surprised that on my last few days of blogging I bring up this point.
Chapter 21 “Enough to Buy Back the Product”
Chapter 22 The Function of Profits
Chapter 23 The Mirage of Inflation
Chapter 24 The Assault on Saving
In the final chapter, The Lesson Restated Hazlitt borrows the story of The Forgotten Man:
The reader will remember that in Sumner’s essay, which appeared in 1883:
As soon as A observes something which seems to him to be wrong, from which X is suffering, A talks it over with B, and A and B then propose to get a law passed to remedy the evil and help X. Their law always proposes to determine what C shall do for X or, in the better case, what A, B and C shall do for … .. What I want to do is to look up C…. I call him the Forgotten Man…. He is the man who never is thought of. He is the victim of the reformer, social speculator and philanthropist, and I hope to show you before I get through that he deserves your notice both for his character and for the many burdens which are laid upon him.
There is much to this forgotten man that goes even beyond economics. If I may digress completely for a minute I can’t help but think of all the ordinary Christian husbands who are the victims of the Utopian ideals of the men their wives follow.
The last part of this book seemed easier to read, probably because it hit closer to home. The agrarian model is helpful here because it lets us glimpse a different sort of economy. I am not sure it is an actual solution. Although, if we have political and economic collapse we may all quickly resort to agrarianism. Once again, I am not one to hold out hope that things will change apart from a general collapse. I tend to see my job as educating myself and my children for a time when rebuilding begins. How weird is that?
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Nice summary, as always Cindy.
You are truly an economic stimulus package in my book and I will miss the interactive nature of your product.
I will not forget to look you up, Mrs. *C*
Comment by Dana (January 29, 2008 @ 7:36 am )
Dana,
What I would love to do is go to that museum with you sometime. I forget the name and where it is but I still haven’t forgotten the idea.
Comment by Cindy (January 29, 2008 @ 7:45 am )
Cindy, I am a sporadic reader who almost never comments, but this completely caught my interest. Sounds like a book I really want to read. Like you, I have always had very negative vibes about minimum wage (especially since my 16 yr old son started making more than I *ever* did, pre-kids, and thinking he’s worth it!) and labor unions irk me bigtime, so these quotes definitely hit home with me. Thanks for posting about it!
Comment by homefire (January 29, 2008 @ 8:13 am )
About your sidebar………hope you will continue to post there in your *absence*.
Here’s a link to a Mark Steyn article comparing and contrasting the American and Canadian economcies. I couldnt figure out how to incorporate it into my post
http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis.asp
Comment by Dana (January 29, 2008 @ 8:29 am )
Cindy,
There is much to this forgotten man that goes even beyond economics. If I may digress completely for a minute I can’t help but think of all the ordinary Christian husbands who are the victims of the Utopian ideals of the men their wives follow.
I think you’ve nailed one yourself with this. As I read through the rest of Hazlitt’s book I thought he ended up ignoring just as much collateral damage as he criticized others for ignoring. And maybe this is just what it takes to sell any utopian scheme, whether it be free-market capitalism or socialism or Promise Keepers or biblical patriarchy: play up the good, play down or dismiss the bad.
Since it’s been awhile, and since it’s poetry, I’ll toss in one of my favorite quotes on the topic, from T.S. Eliot’s “Choruses From The Rock”, where he writes that men “constantly try to escape / from the darkness outside and within / by dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good.” I think that the systems we’re discussing exist in large part to relieve us of the need to judge good and bad for ourselves. We don’t have to worry about whether it was just and good for coal companies to do what they did to the Appalachian mountain people; our legal system tells us it was right, and our economic system tells us it was good (on net balance).
The scarier implication of Eliot’s observation, I think, is that if we were good we wouldn’t need systems. And I don’t think it would require that we wait on everyone else to be good first.
Comment by Rick Saenz (January 29, 2008 @ 9:24 am )
I guess I always thought of the free market as an anti-system when maybe it is just a different system, certainly I am still willing to say it is a better system while men remain ‘not good.’ The truth is though that if industry changes I don’t see how to stop it. If we don’t need whale oil anymore how can whalers survive? I think Hazlitt is saying, “leave the whalers to the good people.”
And we need to be the good people. But in our current situation, how can we be good when we are giving our entire income to the government from Jan-July?
So where do we go from here?
I am definitely with you on the small changes in the smallest organisms being the real hope. I cannot help all the whalers but I can help a whaler, so to speak. I loved the point you made on your blog about the evil behind sentences that begin, “Somebody ought to do something.”
Comment by Cindy (January 29, 2008 @ 9:40 am )
Dana,
The Imprimis is on the nightstand waiting until I am awake enough one night to finish the article. I truly love to read Mark Steyn although he depresses Tim.
Comment by Cindy (January 29, 2008 @ 9:43 am )
Cindy
So where do we go from here?
It may be frustrating, but I don’t think we can proceed with any confidence without wrestling some of these big questions to the ground. For example, it is tempting to just punt on the matter of free-market capitalism, because no matter what we end up concluding about it personally, we will have to move forward within the context of a free-market capitalist society, and it would be a mistake to set about the task of changing that (at the society level, anyway). But unless we are very clear about whether free-market capitalist assumptions are solid or flawed, we run the risk of being unduly influenced by them in our own lives, e.g. we might end up doing something that is ethically questionable because it is justifiable as a “business decision.”
Here’s the smallest of examples. Our chickens finally started laying, and it looks like we’ll be getting about sixteen dozen eggs per week, enough to start selling the surplus. The going rate around here, at least until recently, is $1 per dozen judging by the scrawled roadside signs we see. And $1 per dozen would make us happy.
But I’m told that egg prices in the grocery stores are soaring right now. So the market will presumably bear a price higher than $1, and free-market economics tells me to take advantage of that situation.
We’re not going to do that, though, because it wouldn’t be fair. We’ll continue to sell the eggs for $1 a dozen because it is a fair price, both for us and for our customers. If our costs rise to the point where $1 no longer yields a fair rate of return to us, we’ll raise the price. If somehow our costs drop, we’ll drop the price. We want our relationship with our customers to be fully human, not merely economic.
(And, just to make you mad about government regulation, we now have excess milk and would be glad to sell it for $2.50 a gallon, rather than the $4+ I just saw at the grocery store. But state laws prohibit it, and we are of course to submit to the authorities in all things.)
Comment by Rick Saenz (January 29, 2008 @ 10:22 am )
Speaking of eggs and free-market capitalism, folks might be entertained by this weblog post that describes some real-life thinking about whether or not to buy local organic eggs. The last comment made me laugh (approvingly).
Comment by Rick Saenz (January 29, 2008 @ 10:31 am )
Rick,
I am somewhat astounded by your points of view. I have always understood the laws of supply and demand as presented by Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations comparable to the law of gravity aptly demonstrated by Isaac Newton.
They exist and are true whether we think it is a good *system* or not.
Hazlitt’s *Lesson* are comparable to Lewis’s *Mere Christianity*. Neither cover the full depths of their *systems*… on purpose.
I am happy that you are charging $1 doz for free range eggs and if I were nearby I might buy some from you. But I firmly believe that one should be free to charge $2, if he so desires. He may have dozens of eggs rotting….or he may be more profitable in this particular season. Furthermore, he may be inclined to save that *extra* dollar to use for living expenses when his chickens arent producing.
Surely, we agree….somehow….somewhere….or we both wouldnt be reading Cindy’s blog.
Comment by Dana (January 29, 2008 @ 10:55 am )
This is my favorite portion of Eliot’s The Rock -
What Life Have You?
What life have you if you have not life together?
There is no life that is not in community,
And no community not lived in praise of GOD.
Even the anchorite who meditates alone,
For whom the days and nights repeat the praise of GOD,
Prays for the Church, the Body of Christ incarnate.
And now you live dispersed on ribbon roads,
And no man knows or cares who is his neighbor
Unless his neighbor makes too much disturbance,
But all dash to and fro in motor cars,
Familiar with the roads and settled nowhere
Nor does the family even move about together,
But every son would have his motorcycle,
And daughters ride away on casual pillions.
Much to cast down, much to build, much to restore;
Let the work not delay, time and the arm not waste;
Let the clay be dug from the pit, let the saw cut the stone,
Let the fire not be quenched in the forge.
T.S. Eliot (1888-1965)
From *The Rock*
Comment by Dana (January 29, 2008 @ 11:03 am )
I have never read The Rock, but everytime I read a portion posted somewhere, I feel compelled to go buy it. I will, someday, I will!
That is so my California suburbia…
Comment by Brandy (January 29, 2008 @ 11:56 am )
This whole housing crisis is interesting to me on this level. People quit buying homes and started buying houses. In our area it is all about getting a house and then selling it for a profit. It never occurred to me when we were looking to look in an up and coming neighborhood. We were looking for a home and we found one. The Bible says the children of this world are shrewder than the children of light and that is certainly true about our choices.
Comment by Cindy (January 29, 2008 @ 1:10 pm )
I’ve enjoyed everyone’s thoughts and ideas on this book. Thanks for hosting the discussion and for faithfully posting and keeping us all on track.
Comment by Laura D. (January 30, 2008 @ 6:48 pm )