Thu 24 Aug 2006
I hope you will forgive me. I am going out of town but I wanted to leave you with a few agrarian thoughts.
Since we are getting ready to move I am going through thangs. It takes a very long time to pack photo albums but I am sure y’all will be glad when they are all safely boxed.
While I call myself the philosophical agrarian there was a time when my agrarian bonafides were far from philosophical.
For example, there was a day when Tim and I thought buying this place was a good idea. Nothing at all philosophical about that. A good course in logic would have come in handy.

Perhaps it was the panoramic view:

Or maybe the plumbing…….

Here is the Cheese House (below), possibly one of the oldest standing homes in Cumberland County, NJ. The windows are wood slats to let air in during the cheese making process. We had our first Thanksgiving at the farm in the cheese house with quilts on the walls, a wood cooking stove and herbs from my massive garden hanging from the pegged beams. At one time it had a brick fireplace the size of one wall. The boys made their bedroom in the loft one winter because it was fun to wake up with snow on the blankets.

There is a reason people in the olden days didn’t have plumbing. Can you guess? Well, plumbing freezes without heat and it isn’t too easy to keep a structure like this warm in the winter. You could use up enough electricity to light a small city or you could burn wood in the charming wood stove. If you choose not to pay the electric company $7,000,000,000 then you must commit your life and your future to chopping wood, splitting wood, hauling wood, sweeping up after wood and manning the stove to make sure it doesn’t run out of wood. You better make sure you have a lot of boys. I did.
You must try to be patient with your friend, in the brand new home, who lets her children roller skate on her new wood floors so that they will look like yours.
I always say it is entirely possible that George Washington might have slept there (when he was a baby). Or even Perhaps his great grandmother slept there.
You don’t need to learn Latin when you live in this sort of house. You are too busy ordering your mind on how to get through the day without freezing or meeting a creature of some sort in the hall….bats (my husband met them head on with a tennis racket. It took all night), moles (I caught one on a mouse trap…in the house), snakes ( See Linda’s comment. We caught it when it dropped into the washing machine), rats ( those of whom we don’t speak), mice (let them eat cake) and kittens we didn’t know existed (brand-new in the underwear drawer).
When you live in this sort of house you aren’t a philosophical agrarian, you either become a stoic (somebody shoot me), an epicurean( dreaming of wall-to-wall carpet & central air) or a hyper-Calvinist (me waving madly).
(Next picture: a bona fide picture of me with Charlotte Mason
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So what happened? Did you sell it when you left NJ, or did you keep it, thinking that one day you might want to move back?
We had an eye-opening experience with an old 1850’s farmhouse in up-state NY, but we just rented it. Made us realize what blessings electric/gas heat, potable water, and window screens were.
Comment by Laura D. (August 24, 2006 @ 7:42 pm )
I always wondered what it looked like. Now I’m just waiting for you to write the book.
Comment by Jeannine (August 24, 2006 @ 8:55 pm )
LOL!!! Romantic fools that we were, we spent a winter in a rented farm shanty with only wood heat (no other heat source) with a 5 year old and a 2 year old. Our self-sufficiency craze ended one morning when I realized that I was married to a computer guy and not a farmer, and he could spend more time with the children on 4 acres 15 minutes from his office than on 100 acres 1 1/2 hours from work (one way). First one to the bathroom in the morning got to break the ice on the toilet water and the icicles hanging from the shower - no insulation to speak of. I’ve seen one too many fire safety programs to ever live in a house that old again. It was a little frightening to look into the back of a closet filled with clothes and see firelight through the cracks in the mortar of the chimney. Fun memories, but I’m glad they’re memories.
Comment by Sandy (August 24, 2006 @ 9:46 pm )
It looks great, Cindy. I know what you mean about heating though. We lived in an old farmhouse until about four…or is it five…years ago. It was smaller than yours though. The first winter we almost froze and we could see daylight through the clapboard siding. That year we wired, insulated, and sheetrocked the upstairs. And it’s probably not as cold in Missouri as New Jersey.
Laura, where in upstate New York was the house?
Comment by Patti (August 24, 2006 @ 9:51 pm )
Patti, it was in King Ferry, which is really just a crossroads on the eastern side of Cayuga Lake, about 20 miles north of Ithaca. We were able to enjoy it somewhat because we knew our stay there wouldn’t be too long - Steve was still on active duty in the Marine Corps then.
Comment by Laura D. (August 24, 2006 @ 10:09 pm )
Oh boy, do I remember THAT house! Colleen and Michael are here with me as I look at these pictures, so I asked them what memories they had of the ole’ farm.
Colleen remembers boards on some of the windows and lots of cats, particularly one small kitten who met its demise by crawling up under a car for protection? warmth? Poor thing.
Michael said he remembers your (then) bigger boys hiding Christopher in really good hiding places in the house so they could find him; they never could. He said Christopher would hide quietly and wait to be found. (Colleen said she has no memory of this, so I don’t know if Michael dreamed it or what?)
Now they are laughing and asking whether it was in this house that Nathaniel got a BB stuck in his ear. Michael also says that one of your boys shot him with a BB once! HEY!
Sorry. We don’t mean to have so much fun at your expense. You know, old friends and old memories and all that stuff.
Hope to see you on Sunday!?
Comment by Linda (August 24, 2006 @ 10:27 pm )
Just remembered something else! (Sorry) You and I were standing in some room by your washer and dryer, and we looked up to see a big (rat?) snake overhead in the rafters. (shiver) Boy, those memory juices are flowing now!
Comment by Linda (August 24, 2006 @ 10:29 pm )
Linda,
Do I need to discipline someone or is the statute of limitations up.
I think it was in the blue house that Nathaniel dropped a BB in his ear and didn’t tell us for several days and had to have surgery. And shooting one of your sons with a BB…..duffers all of them just duffers.
We had 6 levels in that house and when we moved there Christopher was a toddler. I was sure he would get lost and we would never find him again.
Patti,
one of my friends looked at our walls and said, “You can see daylight, how charming?” Yes.
Comment by Cindy (August 24, 2006 @ 10:33 pm )
Yes and I learned to love snakes and cats (I generally hate cats) because they both ate mice.
Comment by Cindy (August 24, 2006 @ 10:36 pm )
Laura D,
I have a deep love affair with modern windows. In the farm house the glass was so old it had run and was blurry plus you couldn’t open any windows. Not that you needed them.
We did sell the farm by a sheer act of God and there are really quite a few funny stories about the sale. One including Paul McCartney.
But it did break our backs financially. Our efforts to be agrarian ended up making my dh more a slave to “the man” than he ever was before we bought that farm. But this is suppose to be the funny post not the bitter one.
Comment by Cindy (August 24, 2006 @ 10:41 pm )
I do seem to recall pretty stenciling that you had done on the walls of the kithen, though.
And a lovely garden. And chickens that actually laid eggs. And deer in the field across the way. There. Some nice thoughts to fill your mind.
Comment by Linda (August 24, 2006 @ 11:02 pm )
Uh, that would be kitchen rather than kithen.
Comment by Linda (August 24, 2006 @ 11:03 pm )
I too have wanted to hear and see more. I am married to a city man, through and through but I long for a little land and an old house. I know enough about myself to know that I romanticize the country life and am far to lazy and inlove with the indoors and a good book to work that hard!
Thanks for writing this and I have enjoyed the comments! Have a good trip.
Comment by Margaret in VA (August 25, 2006 @ 7:49 am )
Our snake was in my kitchen, beneath the fridge. The mice were everywhere. The curtains billowed in the breeze when the windows were shut. And my husband was in the military, gone two months of every year -the cold months. He chainsawed lots of wood for me before he left, but the wood stove was all mine. We had no son, though I did babysit two boys, sons of a single mother, and I drafted them to carry in the wood most mornings.
You could see your breath in all the bedrooms on winter mornings, and glasses of water left in the bedrooms overnight froze solid.
The kitchen was none too warm either, but that just meant I only needed to cover (in jars with tight lids) food at night instead of putting it away. We chickens and goats, and we milked two of the goats twice a day and my husband butchered two of the buck kids and we et them.
And I am also not married to a farmer, Sandy.=)
Our current bane is poison ivy. We have acres of it, apparently, and my husband is so allergic to it he has only to walk downwind of it to break out. We need fencing up most dreadfully, but every time he tries he gets a bad case of poison ivy, and he says the girls put up fences like girls. I don’t think he means that in a chivalrous way, how about you?=)
I do love my modern windows.
Comment by deputyheadmistress (August 25, 2006 @ 9:18 am )
Wow! I’ve always been a city mouse who loves the country. I’m not sure I want to be “agrarian,” though. I definitely want to hear the Sir Paul McCartney story!
Comment by Leslie (August 25, 2006 @ 11:10 am )
Ok, ok, I’ll confess to how blonde I am! I thought this post was a joke! You have such a wry, sarcastic wit you know Cindy. After reading the comments, especially from Linda, I realized it was for real. I’m sorry - for thinking it was a joke AND for what you went through at that house. I couldn’t take the critters. That would be enough to send me over the edge. Your whole story reminds me of The Long Winter by Laura Ingalls Wilder. They used to wake up with snow on their covers I think. And it seemed like the only thing they did that winter was sit near the stove, twist straw for the fire (they ran out of wood), or grind grain in the coffee mill. At least you didn’t have to worry about the train coming through.
By the way, where and when are you moving? I think I missed that.
Blessings.
Comment by Meredith B. (August 25, 2006 @ 3:40 pm )
Meredith,
My husband is working in Tn now. We are actually visiting him right now. He is out fishing with the boys and I just found out I can use a wireless connection at the motel.
I never lie about The Farm. I have lots of dreadful stories.
I have spent my time while they are out fishing reading Wendell Berry and I think I am finally starting to get it a little.
Comment by Cindy (August 25, 2006 @ 4:58 pm )
I loved that old place!! Remember the turkeys? The White one?!? Yea Michael, you are not crazy we used to hide Chris(sister)but I remember that nobody could find him with the exception of me:o) Jk. Mama I want to have wild flowers just like you had them, just cultivated enough to flourish; wild enough to be lovely. Oh, and herbs hanging from the ceiling; Treasure Island, and a hot fire keeping the living room toasty while the wind howled the blizzard of 96! I loved tracking the turkeys, splitting wood, and fresh eggs; the barn lofts and exploration of surrounding woods; wild cherry blossoms in the summer, strawberry jam homemade and the smell of lilacs. I don’t miss 32 cats, incontrollable dust, hand scrubbing the wood floors; mowing for 3 days straight by hand 4 acres; dishes piled up for days because the water was frozen, getting up at 0600 to find the fire out, and no kindling,living room temp. 38 degrees, running outside barefoot to find wood to start a fire. That was a character building house! Good times. Timmay
Comment by Timothy (August 25, 2006 @ 5:13 pm )
And I thought scorpions, roaches and gekkos were bad!! I could not live with snakes and rats. I am thankful for my electricity and running water but do desire a veg. garden and rose garden some day. I’ve thought of getting a few chickens so my friend with cancer could have fresh eggs (sorry, not free range ;))
Have fun in TN. Will you fill us in on the details of your move? Or am I being too nosey?
Comment by Janet (August 25, 2006 @ 9:21 pm )
We don’t have any details yet. Our house is on the market and we will move to the
Dayton area if it sells soon. If it takes a while to sell we will have to figure out what to do because my dh is doing contract work right now not permanent employment.
We genuinely don’t know what we are doing :)n
Comment by Cindy (August 26, 2006 @ 1:02 pm )
Dayton? Ohio? I thought y’all were going to Tennessee.
Comment by Kelly (August 26, 2006 @ 1:12 pm )
Dayton, Tn
Comment by Cindy (August 28, 2006 @ 10:30 am )
Okay, Cindy all good homes in Greenwich have a story, some of them are more ghostly than others and most of the homes tend to build character of some sort. That house was a Andrew Wyeth painting & I don’t know why he never knocked on your door to ask if he could make a painting of it.
Yes, everything you & Timothy said about this place is true. When different ones are involved with the same journey it’s always interesting who remembers what part of the journey. The blue stenciling was very pretty. Post some indoor shots for us sometime.
Terri
Comment by terri (August 28, 2006 @ 12:33 pm )
I saw a picture of the kitchen the other day and I had forgotten all about the blue stencilling and i thought it looked nice too but in my mind the kitchen is always and forever in its original state.
Comment by Cindy (August 28, 2006 @ 12:56 pm )
fireplace mantles fireplace mantles
Comment by fireplace mantles (October 18, 2006 @ 4:06 pm )